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The Red Army Air Force in the First Days of Operation Barbarossa


Stationed at one of the many airfields in
the west of the Soviet Union was Viktor Sinaisky. “The night of 21st to 22nd of June [1941]
was quiet. We spent it under canvas, listening to the patter of falling rain. But howling
sirens sounded soon after dawn. ‘Not another alarm?’ we murmured…” Elsewhere, Alexander Khaila had a similar
experience. “It rained heavily during the night of the
21st to 22nd of June [1941], and when the alarm sounded no one wanted to get up, as
everyone thought it was yet another training exercise. “Our entire training process was
a series of alarms and they came almost every Sunday.” Shvarev was in Kaunas with Antonets’s 236th
Aviation Regiment when the Axis launched Operation Barbarossa. “About 4 o’clock in the morning we heard
AA guns firing. There had been rumours about a full-scale training exercise, so at first
we assumed all was well. But we could see Kaunas Airfield and the meat-processing factory
nearby from our house. Suddenly I saw the reflection of flames: ‘Brothers, this is
no exercise: look, a hangar is burning!’” On another airfield was Ivan Gaidaenko. Gaidaenko
had received the Order of the Red Star during the Winter War – where the Soviet Union had
attacked Finland, and lost. This medal was given to him personally by Kalinin, President
of the USSR. “On the 21st of June 1941 I got leave. I
decided to visit a girl I knew in Kexholm before going home to the Ukraine. While I
was packing the alarm sounded. We assumed it was a training alarm and ran to our white
SB planes (they looked like swans to us), warmed up the engines and prepared to take
off. We prepared photo cameras and attached dummy concrete bombs just in case. No one
realized it was a real alarm!” 94% of the bombers that the Soviets were equipped
with in the western border districts were these old Tupolev SB aircraft. Once Gaidaenko
and his comrades had figured out that the war had actually started, they couldn’t
take off. Why? Because their planes were white. They had to repaint them with camouflage colours,
which took a couple of days. Luckily, their airfield was not hit in the first few days
of the war. Meanwhile, instead of taking off without orders
(thus risking reprimands), Sinaisky and his comrades at their airfield pulled their planes
into a nearby forest and camouflaged them. “By the time a German scout plane arrived
there were no signs of an airfield left at all. Apparently this was the reason the Germans
didn’t bomb our airfield, as the measures were taken in good time. Thus the first day
of the war was absolutely quiet for us.” But other airfields were hit. Luftwaffe bombers
struck 76 Soviet airfields on the 22nd of June 1941. 237 of the Southwestern Front’s
planes were destroyed whilst sat on their airfields in the first two days of the war
before they had even had a chance to take off. “We jumped out of the tent – some of our
neighbours had already been killed and wounded. I pulled on my flight overall, took my map
case, and ran towards the hangar. I ordered a technician: ‘Roll out my plane!’ The
3rd Squadron’s duty planes, lined up on the field, were already burning.” 77% of the fighters were old and obsolete
models like the I-15s, I-153s, and I-16s. “The I-15 fighters from the 3rd Squadron
were on duty that morning – we dubbed these planes ‘coffins’ as there were accidents
with them all the time…” In fact, in addition to the 237 aircraft destroyed
on their airfields by the Luftwaffe, the Southwestern Front lost 242 aircraft due to accidents by
the 10th of August 1941. This was the result of either faulty equipment or poor training.
Their total losses for this period were 1,861 aircraft, meaning that had they lost 13% of
their total aircraft through maintenance or training problems alone. Yes, 13% of their
aircraft were lost by their crews just flying the planes – not through enemy action. “A massive increase in the size of the air
force combined with the purges to dilute the number of trained leaders, pilots, administrators,
and mechanics, so that 25 percent of VVS [Red Army Air Force] regiments existed only on
paper. In an atmosphere where a plane crash would result in the commander’s arrest for
sabotage, VVS leaders were very cautious about allowing their pilots to train on the new
aircraft or fly at night. Pilots in the Baltic Special Military District averaged only 15.5
flight hours in the first three months of 1941; their counterparts in Kiev averaged
4 hours. Only 932 of 2,800 pilots had completed transition training to their new aircraft
by 22 June. Many soldiers and airmen were so unfamiliar with the new designs that they
fired on their own aircraft when the war began.” Imagine flying an aircraft for just a few
hours and then being told – ok, now it’s time to get into a dogfight with experienced
Luftwaffe pilots who are flying more up to date aircraft. How well do you think you’d
do? Klimenko’s regiment only had one MiG-1 aircraft.
The only pilot who knew how to fly it went up into the air, approached a German reconnaissance
plane from the rear, but didn’t fire. Then he swooped around and moved in to attack again,
but didn’t fire again. When they landed back at the airfield, the pilot explained
that the trigger didn’t work. It turned out that the trigger had a security frame
over it, and all the pilot had to do was flip it aside before pulling the trigger. But he
didn’t know this because he wasn’t used to the aircraft. However, this was actually better than what
Khaila’s airfield managed. After hearing the alarms go off in the morning and complaining
that their Sunday had been ruined by more training exercises, they were ordered to the
canteen… but weren’t told what was going on. They waited for hours, and it wasn’t
until noon when they heard Molotov’s speech over the radio and realised that they were
at war. They didn’t even take off at all that first day. Elsewhere, Klimenko did take
off though – “I started the engine, jumped in the cockpit,
and took off. I circled the airfield as I didn’t know where to go or what to do! Another
I-16 fighter approached. He dipped his wingtips, indicating: ‘Attention! Follow me!’” Radios were in short supply, as were communications
specialists. Most of those who had radios didn’t know how to use them. It wasn’t
until October of 1942 that the Air Force had radios in half of its fighter aircraft. And
it wasn’t until the end of 1943 that radios were installed in all their aircraft. This
meant that the Soviets had to fight in a close, inflexible fighting formation, without the
means to communicate, or warn each other of approaching enemy aircraft, or coordinate
their actions as a team. Whereas the Germans – armed with radios – could run rings around
them. “Fighters flew three abreast in a fixed
line, easy prey for German pilots, who flew in loose vertical formations, using air-to-air
communications to help each other out. The slow Soviet bombers flew close together at
a set height of 8,000 feet and were shot down like migrating geese.” So, without orders or communications equipment,
and not knowing what to do, Klimenko in his I-16 followed his commander. The two planes
spotted German columns below them and made a few passes, shooting them with their ShKAS
machine guns. Upon his return, Klimenko and his leader were brought before the regiment
commander. “Arrest them. No flights for these two.
Who permitted you to strafe those columns? Do you know what’s going on? I don’t.
Maybe you are responsible for an act of provocation. Maybe those were friendly troops…” It was only when Molotov made his speech at
noon that they went from being classed as “hooligans” to being classed as “heroes”. “We were the only ones from the entire regiment
who fought back at the Fritzes without waiting for orders. But our losses were high – many
planes and hangers were destroyed.” The Spanish Civil War had shown the weaknesses
of the old Soviet fighter aircraft designs like the I-16 and the I-153, which were even
outgunned and out-maneuvered by the German bombers, let alone German fighters. The Finnish
Air Force only had 114 planes during the Winter War, so the Soviet VVS concentrated on helping
the ground troops, meaning that the Soviet pilots had little combat experience by the
time Barbarossa launched, and their aircraft were simply not up for the job. “I engaged the enemy only once in an I-16.
We were a group of three or four planes and we came across a Fiesler ‘Storch’. We
chased him all over the place but couldn’t hit him! One of my machine guns jammed but
eventually we succeeded in shooting him down.” While the VVS took up 40% of the USSR’s
military budget and was able to produce twice as many aircraft compared to German industry
in the June of 1941, the planned replacement of the out-of-date planes wasn’t due to
be finished until the middle of 1942. Worse, they were behind schedule. And even if they
were armed with the newer MiG-1s, MiG-3s, or Il-2 Sturmoviks, 90% of all Soviet fighters
were only armed with machine guns, not heavier guns and cannons like the Luftwaffe aircraft
had. On the first day, Shvarev put on his clothes
and ran to the airfield. The hanger was burning, but they managed to pull out their planes.
There were no commanders, but on their own initiative, they went up into the air in their
MiG-3’s. They attacked a group of He 111 bombers, but just like the I-16s, their machine
guns were prone to jamming, which they did in the heat of the battle. “After this first battle 40 bullet holes
were found in my plane and eight rounds had lodged in my parachute. Can you imagine? A
MiG had a fuel supply system, a water system, and an oil system. I was incredibly lucky
not a single tube was hit.” Shvarev went up two more times that day and
managed to bring down a Heinkel bomber. Only 6 fighters from the regiment survived, with
25 damaged and had to be destroyed when they retreated from the airfield. The rapid expansion of the Soviet air force
in the late 1930s and early 1940s meant that new airfields had to be constructed and old
ones converted to allow the new aircraft to operate on them. In the May of 1941, they
still had to build 592 new airfields in total for the western military districts, of which
480 were planned to have been constructed by the 31st of December 1941. Clearly, most
of these airfields were not built when the Germans attacked. In the meantime, most Soviet
aircraft were deployed or redeployed to temporary airfields, or over-concentrated on the existing
airfields, meaning that they were harder to conceal and more vulnerable to air attack.
After successfully hiding their aircraft in the woods on the first day, Sinaisky and his
I-16s went up on the 23rd of June, and collectively managed to bring down one enemy bomber. “But in the first confrontations with German
bombers our young pilots realized that 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns were of little use: they
fired and fired at the bombers but with no result. To be honest we all became pessimistic.” Many bases were built so close to the border
that they came under artillery attack, and were often overrun very quickly by the advancing
Axis forces. These forward bases just happened to be the best equipped airfields as well,
further straining the shortage of spare parts, and increasing the loss of trained officers
and men. “We flew I-16s against the enemy’s Me
109s. German planes were faster than ours. In theory our I-16s could gain 400-450m during
a turn, while a Messer would gain 700-750m no trouble. And our gunsights consisted of
a simple pipe. What could you see through it? Only the Group Commander had an I-16 fitted
with a collimator sight. My friend Valya Firsov, from Orel, was killed in those early battles.” Making matters worse, air regiments also should
have had 3 airfields each. Instead, many regiments shared one airfield with another regiment.
The overcrowded airfields prevented the planes from taking off quickly, helping to explain
why so many planes were hit on the ground on the first day. “I didn’t get to fly a MiG-3 though – they’d
all been destroyed on the ground. They gave me an old I-16 with a finger-thick layer of
paint on it. This plane was armed with ShKAS machine guns: but they couldn’t fire more
than two bursts without jamming from overheating.” Thick paint wasn’t much protection against
bombs and bullets. Over 1,200 Soviet planes were lost on the first morning of the war.
The Northwestern Front’s operational report on the 22nd of June 1941 said that 56 of its
planes were shot down that day, and 32 were destroyed on the airfields themselves. By
the 26th of June, Kopets reported he had lost somewhere in the region of 80% of his equipment. Command and control was impossible since communications had completely collapsed. The system in place relied heavily on telephone cables, which were destroyed or overrun in the opening phases,
and the Luftwaffe was causing chaos at the remaining Soviet airfields not yet taken.
Every front had suffered a similar fate, and it’s no wonder Kopets decided to commit suicide fearing Stalin’s wrath. What little remained of the VVS tried to help
their ground troops in any way that they could. One day, a heavy KV tank got stuck in a swamp.
Gaidaenko and his team were ordered to destroy it from the air. “Can you imagine? We were ordered to destroy
this tank with 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns! They should have known better! Well, we flew
to the tank and fired at it. But what was the point of all this?” In the early post-war narratives of WW2, authors
stated that the Luftwaffe had around 2,000 aircraft deployed in the East against the
colossal 20,662 planes that the Red Army Air Force had at the time – the largest air force
in history. Yet somehow they were victorious. This is then used by some racists as proof
that the German Aryan supermen were far superior to the ‘Judeo-Bolshevik’ ‘Asiatic savage’. And, because the Luftwaffe had a total of
about 5,670 planes in the June of 1941, and because just 2,000 were deployed in the East,
this meant that only 35% of the Luftwaffe was in support of the largest land invasion
in history. The conclusion that some come to from this percentage is that the Wehrmacht
couldn’t deploy everything it had to the East because of Britain, and thus if only
they’d been able to deploy their full might against the Russians, then victory would have
been assured. The reality is that the Luftwaffe deployed
3,904 planes in the East for Barbarossa, which is 69% of the total aircraft strength. That’s
a little bit higher than 35%. In addition, and often forgotten, there was an extra 1,025
aircraft belonging to the Axis Allied armies, bringing the total Axis air force strength
to about 4,929. And while the Soviets did have 20,662 aircraft,
this was the total number of aircraft deployed throughout the entire USSR, not just those
fighting on the Axis-Soviet Front. But even then, 5,103 of these aircraft were not actually
combat aircraft. Meaning the total was 15,559, not 20,662. Then, only about 9,912 of these
were deployed in European Russia. “Thus the disparity in aircraft between
the Axis and Soviet air forces declines from 1:4 (or 1:10 if counting all Russian aircraft)
to a more accurate 1:2 (or 1:4). This illustrates that not only did the Luftwaffe concentrate
a larger number of aircraft for Barbarossa, but also that its numerical odds versus its
Russian adversary were considerably less daunting than have usually been claimed.” And that’s just the face-value numbers.
On the 22nd of June 1941, 12.9% (919 machines) of the aircraft in the western border districts
were not operational. Of the remaining aircraft, they only had 5,937 trained crews available
to man them. The new model planes may as well not have been there because they only had
208 crews who knew how to fly them. Since these planes can’t fly themselves, having
an abundance of aircraft is meaningless without the crews. When the crew numbers are factored
in, it’s 4,929 Axis aircraft vs 5,937 Soviet aircraft. A ratio that’s 1:1.2. Far more
even. And as we have seen, most of the Soviet aircraft
were older designs, were poorly armed and poorly armoured, were slower than the German
aircraft, were overcrowded on their airfields, had no radios (unlike the Germans), were completely
surprised, nobody knew there was a war going on, they had no orders, weren’t even at
their posts in a lot of cases, were struck by bombers in the first morning – losing hundreds
of planes on the airfields before they even had a chance to take off, and the Red Army
Air Force was in the middle of an expansion and reforming process to update their aircraft
and formations. Why? Because the Soviet government had not expected to fight until the summer
of 1942, which is why it risked expanding and reforming the air force (and the army)
when it did. This fantastical idea that the Soviet Union
was going to strike first against the National Socialist Third Reich in 1941, and that’s
why the Wehrmacht had to go East when it did, simply doesn’t hold up. The Red Army and
her Air Force were not prepared for war, which is why they were caught completely off guard,
and is why the Luftwaffe gained total air superiority in the first week, and then retained
it until late-1942. It wasn’t until the summer of 1943 that the Red Army Air Force
had recovered enough to dominate the skies. This was only possible because of a massive
increase in Soviet aircraft production, a huge reorganization and training effort, and
an influx of Lend Lease equipment in terms of both aircraft and radios.

Tony wyaad

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93 COMMENTS

  1. Always Angry Person Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    YES DADDY YES!

    Reply
  2. Great Jamie Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    Essentially, it went catastrophically wrong for the Red Air Force

    Reply
  3. TIK Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    This is the first time I’ve done a specific video on the air war. What do you think? Want me to do more? Or should I “stick to tanks”?

    Still not sure on a date with Stalingrad, but the map is almost done so I will let you know. If you like Stalingrad, you should check out and subscribe to Anton Joly's YouTube channel – "Stalingrad Battle Data". Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIk1QDvITjPOCsIRGGpSasA

    Sources

    Drabkin, A. "The Red Air Force at War: Barbarossa and the Retreat to Moscow." Pen&Sword, Kindle 2007.

    Glantz, D. “Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War.” University Press of Kansas, 1998.

    Glantz, D. “Colossus Reborn: The Red Army at War, 1941-1943.” University Press of Kansas, 2005.

    Glantz, D. & House, J. “When Titan’s Clashed.” University Press of Kansas, 2015.

    Overy, R. “Russia’s War.” Penguin Group, 1999.

    Hayward, J. “Stopped at Stalingrad: The Luftwaffe and Hitler’s Defeat in the East 1942-1943.” University Press of Kansas, 1998.

    Hill, A. "British Lend Lease Aid and the Soviet War Effort, June 1941 June 1942." Article from The Journal of Military History,Vol. 71, No. 3 (Jul., 2007), pp. 773-808.

    Liedtke, G. “Enduring the Whirlwind: The German Army and the Russo-German War 1941-1943.” Helion & Company LTD, 2016.

    Suvorov, V. "Icebreaker. Who Started the Second World War?" PL UK Publishing, Kindle 2012. (this book is not recommending reading)

    van Tuyll, H. "Feeding the Bear: American Aid to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945." Greenwood Press, 1989.

    A full list of all my WW2 and related books can be found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/114GiK85MPs0v4GKm0izPj3DL2CrlJUdAantx5GQUKn8/edit?usp=sharing

    Thanks for watching!

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  4. Gipsy Danger Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    Those pilots knew they didn't stand a chance. Yet they got into those planes. And desperately rammed them in mid air. Think about the balls on those guys!

    Reply
  5. Annes Fortres Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    Гигант мысли, отец американской истории WW2

    Reply
  6. Kevin Pascual Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    Glantz is the man!

    Reply
  7. Vass Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    Should be able to watch this on lunch break or after work. I do appreciate the bibliography up front. I don’t see anything wrong with a focus on the air war. It helped determine the ground war, your video on Brody highlights that.

    Reply
  8. Worst Ways To Die Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    Hi TIK, just wanted to say Thank You for inspiring me to start my own YouTube channel!

    I'm a big history buff and creators like yourself inspired me to make a hobby of my passion for history!

    Reply
  9. Aaron Gossage Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    I've started reading Absolute War by Bellamy. Have you read it? Is it worth the read?

    Reply
  10. Snegyrys Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    Finally someone talkin about Red Army Air Force. Big YAY

    Reply
  11. Just Randomdude Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:19 pm

    My grand-grand father actually died as a Soviet pilot in the first few weeks of the war. It's quite interesting to learn about his circumstances in his last days.

    Reply
  12. Math429 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    A bit of feedback: I think your videos would be more interesting if you would focus less on statistics and more on the events.

    Reply
  13. Keith Ehredt Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:26 pm

    Battle storm of stalingrad, 1 to 3 weeks away. CANT WAIT TIK. HOPE ITS NEXT WEEK. GREAT JOB ON THESE VIDEOS TIK.

    Reply
  14. СанСаныч Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:26 pm

    And yet, starting from this disaster, by 1943 RAAF was beating the crap out of Luftwaffe aces. What does that say about the Soviet Union' engineering and industrial capabilities, pilot training, morals, and discipline?

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  15. Mark Futchll Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:40 pm

    Wow Russians were lucky they had all that land for trial and error

    Reply
  16. chainoad Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    "<…> Soviet Union attacked Finland and lost."
    Umm, what?

    Where's TIK and what did you you do to him? 🙂

    Reply
  17. Iron Ballz Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    This guy is a satirical incel and imbecile!

    Reply
  18. alcyde nikopol Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Very good vidéo ! Please go on speaking about the air battle in the russian front .
    Greetings from France and thank you for your job !

    Reply
  19. Zexal42 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    I've stopped watching TV at dinner and just watch your (and a few other channel's) videos. Once I move out for Uni, I certainly hope to be able to support you on Patreon 😀

    Reply
  20. Rick Moreno Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Good video as usual TIK

    Reply
  21. simplicius Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    1:52 "The Soviet Union had attacked Finland and lost"

    What the Soviet Union lost? The Karelian isthmus, Vyborg? Hanko?…

    Reply
  22. Ann Onymous Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    my favorite historical trivia? Sturmoviks on CAP! lololol can't outmaneuver but maybe can take a hit …or ten. I don't think Stukas were ever used on CAP but at least once Val's were. (SBDs often were but they were actually designed for that unlike Strumoviks and Vals…)

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  23. Arber Gega Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    You make military history amazing. What’s is your LinkedIn account sir so I can connect with you. John Keegan, David Glantz etc are amazing but it’s Youtube that does a better job at explaining anything. Books take time. For example, I read just 3 books for my Masters dissertation and they took me over a week to do it! YouTube promotes books. Your video on Manstein’s fluid defence got me interested in your channel. Shrinking markets! Keep making military history cool 😎.

    Reply
  24. Martin Guerra Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    Please. We all know alien equipment helped the Germans on the early war.
    And also! Meow Zedong? The great cat leader? Who came up with that peatreon name?

    Reply
  25. Iron Ballz Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    Wow… Lots of "Chinese Aces" in the Soviet Union! Also, 'Hang-Ar. Dumbass INCEL book nerd.

    Reply
  26. babis z Posted on September 9, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    Please please please make a video about General Sikorsky, his view on war and his death. And yes dont stick with tanks. Add navy and air too, but more important add intelligence/not so well known details of WW II. Thanks 🙂

    Reply
  27. Ann Onymous Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    I feel horribly badly for Westerners who don't understand Russian military leadership or leadership style. Because yeah you can have your ass handed to you OR win a medal; you CAN take the initiative but then you risk all the consequences – good and bad. In contrast if you don't take the initiative you don't get the champagne but you also don't get prison time.

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  28. Phyarth Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    Stalin rejected information supplied by spies that germany gathered 1,3 million army near Polish boarder and he must retreat best divisions and best pilots and aircraft from polish and Baltic states inwards to Russia. Red army was sitting duck, target practice for Germans.

    Reply
  29. 360Nomad Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    >1,488 views in one hour
    >14/88 (14 words/Heil Hitler)

    TIK confirmed for secret Nazi conspiracy 😛

    Reply
  30. DannyAgent87 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    I really find the fact interesting that a aircraft rejected by the Americans and British alike were used to devastating effect by the Soviets

    Reply
  31. WithoutWarning Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    1:58 Hol' up isn't that Leon Trotsky?

    Reply
  32. Soft Stone Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    There are very good lecture by M. Timin about first days. (on Russian)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRNrRw-1wzs

    Unfortunatly, the book, than he write about this topic, are still in work, and not avialable even in Russian.

    Reply
  33. Bravo Mokeyy Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    you've made my monday better with this video

    Reply
  34. 011258stooie Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    Is it now impossible for you to make a video without sucking kosher cock ?

    Reply
  35. Iron Ballz Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    Jesus, 7.65 mm!? What is that? An assault rifle? The Soviet compensated for this after WWII with standard 30mm cannons on every plane. America and the West settled for 20mm cannons with faster rates of fire. All of the East has 30mm because of the Soviet standard. West and NATO all have 20mm. And then, there is Sweden. Swedish planes have 27mm.

    The cannon on the German plane was superior to anything that this world had seen. It was embedded in the propeller! But, regardless, training is EVERYTHING in this world! It's NOT just the fancy equipment.

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  36. Al Mol Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    Hows the monetization going?

    Reply
  37. Jules Vallez Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    TIK, seriously…. fantastic video.

    Reply
  38. Ulf Knudsen Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:35 pm

    And all 4929 german with allies was fighting aircraft?
    You really try to rewrite history with your own "thruth'

    I dont give a dime for your so called facts, they are full of holes like the one above.

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  39. Gabriel Parra Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    Why do you ignore the international revolution that Trotsky and Stalin pursued from the very beginning? What does their intervention in the Spanish civil war mean to you? They were ready to take over Germany and would not stop until they took all Western Europe. Their army were deployed not as a defensive position but as ready for an offensive force. Your mocking ilustración of a German soldier shows your true colors.

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  40. Atanasije Simic Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    Even the new Soviet fighters preformed very poorly, with LaGGs being overweight, under-powered and made out of wood in order to save strategic resources, MiGs were supposed to be high altitude fighters but were mostly employed at low altitudes where their performance was poor and YaKs being extremely unreliable due to poor numerous bugs that didnt get discovered because Soviet pilots were flying them enough before the war.

    Reply
  41. M Chaney Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    Grab me some lunch and getting ready for a TIK video.

    Reply
  42. JAffacakeSON BLAHA Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    Stalin was so stupid with his temper.

    Reply
  43. Shoki44 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    The must have been unserviceable planes on the axis side also

    Reply
  44. Brian Kearney Posted on September 9, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    Interesting video, is the Axis number operational or deployed aircraft? As you well know, everyone had trouble with accidents and keeping aircraft operational, and the Luftwaffe was no exception (although they had a lot of valuable experience).

    And even if the numbers of modern aircraft were in favor of the Soviets, the U.K. had great success against the Italian Air Force in the early days of the war despite being outnumbered by striking first and hard. The Soviets were in a similar situation, not expecting a war while their enemy had prepared plans against them for some time.

    I’m sure the upcoming series will give the Soviets a chance at revenge in the air …

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  45. Bouslama Karim Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Dear Tik, Your argument is not quite correct. I have read ICEBREAKER by Victor Suvorov and he did not say the soviets were ready to attack by 1941 but they planned to attack in 1942 and the Germans got wind of it and preempted!

    Reply
  46. CronoZoneDJ Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    I want Stalingrad plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  47. davidgcalderone Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    Yes, more about the air wars

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  48. Christian Hoffmann Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    The I-16 is the cutest aeroplane of all time! Cute cute cute! 😫

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  49. G Hut Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    23:03 Polish made PZL-37 in Romanian colours

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  50. Matthew Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    Loved it! But when you said German planes can outmaneuver Soviet planes doesn't make sense unless you mean outmaneuver by speed and/or altitude. turnfighting an I-16 or I-153 in a 109 is suicidal

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  51. jakov povreslo Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Soviezs didnt lose the winter war tho

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  52. Paul Michael Mason Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    Definitely do some more please. This was also a good length video for me..

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  53. William Bolton Posted on September 9, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    All they had to do was kick in the door.

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  54. Nabuhodonozor1000 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    "I'm neither defending nor praising either the Soviet Union or the Third Reich in this video; merely explaining the history and the perceptions some have on the events of the past does not mean I support what happened. This video is discussing events or concepts that are academic, educational and historical in nature. This video is for informational purposes and was created so we may better understand the past and learn from the mistakes others have made." I am very sad you must write this…

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  55. Jaroslav Paleček Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:09 pm

    Hello I just would like to ask even if I know that it will be mabe difficult to answer simply. How much Greece helped to Soviets by repealing an Italy strike in 1940? Mussolini was humiliated and the Italian army had to run back to Albania in chaos. There was even written on some marks in Albania: Greeks stop! This is a French territory. Hitler could not let it be and had to invade Balkan in spring 1941 to protect his south flank. He had to postpone Barbarossa from spring to summer 1941. How much did it helped to Soviets?

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  56. Agramer Old Octane Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    Interesting … They have slept under canvas, tents, that's typical for temporary airfields intended to be used for short time and then moved elsewhere. The questions was where they were planning to move. Forward into Europe?

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  57. Douglas Strother Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    Check out "The Great Patriotic War" by Star Media (English subtitles)
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuSx-lf2ft7hPceGVNHybOw/featured?disable_polymer=1

    They used to have an English-dubbed version.

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  58. Trexmaster12 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    ”I was a Vlasovite” by Leonid Samutin.

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  59. 360Nomad Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    You what would be a good movie? Pearl Harbor, but change the setting to Soviet Russia in early June of 1941.

    >Uzbek Josh Hartnett complaining "why does the Air Force have to be flying on a Sunday" as German planes menacingly roar overhead and wakes up to see all his planes destroyed on the ground or malfunctioning when trying to take off

    It would be pure comedy gold

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  60. Milan Pracek Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    Soviets weren't prepared in 41 because they had a pact with the nazis. Having a pact with the devil sure has its price.

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  61. Ben Vaserlan Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    TIK, I hear you using the Moskva accent turning the 'o' into 'a'. I get that with Olga (from Moskva) calling the Socionist Victor Gulenko Gulenka. I call him Gulenko. Actually, I call him Dr Victor Gulenko when I've introduced him. 😉

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  62. Ian Smith Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    The annihilation of the Red Air Force in the first days of Operation Barbarossa was actually a blessing in disguise for the Soviet Union. With their obsolete aircraft destroyed they were forced to rebuild from scratch with brand new warplanes that were a match for those of the Luftwaffe.

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  63. Gary Webb Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Based on the data, is it hard to believe that Hartman (?) had over 300 kills to his credit?

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  64. DoddyIshamel Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    This was a good video and I would like to see more, though if you could keep them tied into the areas you are already covering (eastern front and North Africa) that would help with the big picture.

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  65. Molle Tre Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:43 pm

    FTL Drive activated as soon as I saw the notification

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  66. Daniel Kurtović Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    excellent , yes , I wish you do more about air force , especialy Red Army air force and how bad or good is real ratio between Luftwaffe and Red Army air force VVS, when they introduce more modern models of aircrafts. ( 1942-1945). Thanks

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  67. M Posted on September 9, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    This video: Soviets were shit. TIK: some RaCiStS claim the Germans were better!!1

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  68. Sebatinsky Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    A question: wtf the pilots were doing during these often exercises on Sundays, if they were not allowed to fly?

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  69. Darth Patricius Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    what were they doing in those training drills that were so frequent that they couldn't comprehend a real alarm but didn't know their planes, how to fly them or how to use their radios??

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  70. KLOLWTF Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    Slanted/questionable analysis, just what I expected.

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  71. Keith Ehredt Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:21 pm

    Nicely done TIK. All that cramming for the upcoming stalingrad series, will be well worth it. Everything you do is quality. Thanks bro

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  72. PalleRasmussen Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    The USSR did not loose The Winter War. Quite the contrary.

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  73. Donald Hill Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:42 pm

    I appreciate the time you take to break down the numbers from the raw ones, so many seem to rely on to make blanket statements. It makes little deference to have 20k aircraft if the majority are not modern, have no pilots are not available or even armed with a viable weapon.

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  74. Charles Phillips Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    You say 13% of their total aircraft were lost in accidents, it is 13% of their losses. So unless they lost all their aircraft your statement is inaccurate.

    Also although a significant number of aircraft (13% of losses) were lost on the ground, the vast majority (74% of losses) were shot down. So it seems you over emphasise the effectiveness of the German first strike.

    I don't understand “Our I-16 could gain 400-450m during a turn, while a Messer could gain 700-750m no trouble.” Gain in what sense? Are they talking about climbing turns?

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  75. Sandra Lloyd Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Another eye opener….Cheers TIK

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  76. Jo Box Posted on September 9, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    Great thanks! Looking forward to watching the next one

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  77. Alex Kordas Posted on September 9, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    Very good video indeed!

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  78. BruderShaft1 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    I would like to see more details on the comperasion of the airforces of that time. Since suvorov insists that even planes such as I-15 ot I-16 had good features.

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  79. JaneCobbsHat Posted on September 9, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    15:45 those are Douglas Boston bombers.
    Also, a little earlier you mention that Soviet aircraft had not cannon. True for most of them, just like every RAF fighter in the Battle of Britain.

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  80. Kristjan Valgur Posted on September 9, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    Well done, TIK!

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  81. Nicu Danciu Posted on September 9, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    I think that, all in all, this i your best video. You speak rarely, the images are very well synchronized with the text, the information is very clear and not too abundant, the entire video is easy to follow. Sincerly, I consider it your best video, not because of the subject, but because of the way you did it.

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  82. Driveway Nats Posted on September 9, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    Another brilliant analysis of the Russo-German war TIK. Keep them coming mate – your insight is all encompassing.

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  83. Al Mol Posted on September 9, 2019 at 11:09 pm

    Hey you all! We all enjoy this Tiks Mondays but he needs help… if we all sacrifice a coffee a month we can really help him… just think about it…. we are a lot. Thank you

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  84. Luis Lopez Posted on September 9, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    Pretty good video. I have always been a huge aviation nut 😁

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  85. Johny Ricco Posted on September 9, 2019 at 11:20 pm

    Moral of the story, fewer planes, more airfields and hardened aircraft shelters, and more flight hours.

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  86. Penultimate Hortator Posted on September 10, 2019 at 12:07 am

    But at least their pilots looked great in jodhpurs.

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  87. Igor Thomaz Posted on September 10, 2019 at 12:21 am

    Finaly numbers that make sense . Thank you again from Brasil .

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  88. Sam Stewart Posted on September 10, 2019 at 12:35 am

    here is my question. I the spring of 1941 was there not a meeting between german and russian diplomats? Did this meeting include statements by the russians that they thought the Romainian oil fields belonged to them? AND was it this meeting that told the germans the russians would attack Romainia to seize control of ALL the oil germans had available to them?????? WAS THIS not the major german incentive to attack?

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  89. Wizardhacker 70 Posted on September 10, 2019 at 12:49 am

    Percentage of total aircraft strength

    Nice

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  90. CreatorUser Posted on September 10, 2019 at 12:50 am

    One of these days you need to do a video compiling and debunking a list of WW2 myths. Since watching these videos I've basically discovered everything I know is a lie.

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