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The World of War Games & WarMachine | SubCultures


-I guess
the miniatures players — We call them hobby gamers. -It’s a super-detailed version
of chess, but there’s no board. “Well, how do you move?”
Use a measuring tape. -You don’t just buy the pieces
finished. When you buy them,
they’re a model kit that you have to put together. You’re building the game
from the ground up the way you want to play it. -When I was little, I used to
like to build model airplanes, then I got back into
painting miniatures after many years
of not really doing it, and then I decided
to paint a whole army. And then I really
got into the game. Santino,
you started reading the books. -When I first started
getting into the game, I bought the rule book.
I started reading the story. There was one character
in particular — Every time part of the story
came up with him, I was like, “Dude, I got to play this guy.” -There’s a lot of components
that go into playing “Warmachine” because
it’s a very precise game. You end up having
a lot of accessories. I have timers,
and I have measuring gauges that have different allotments
of distance on them. I feel like we lost sight
of having hobbies. This is truly that. You know,
it’s something cool that you do that may or may not have bearing
on any other part of your life. [ Metal music playing ] And finally, there’s the game. At the end of all of this,
you can actually play a game after you’ve put
all your time in to learn the rules
and the story and build your models
and paint them and everything. -You can see
your skill increase. I know guys — I’ve seen them
play their first game, and their models were all
pointed in the wrong direction. They didn’t know
which dice to roll. They’re measuring
everything wrong. Two months later,
they’re placing in a tournament. I would say overall, it’s probably the most
engrossing thing you can do. -In my spare time,
a lot of times, I’m, you know, going on websites, looking
for new strategies, new ideas. I’m reading the books,
so a lot of my time, I spend on what I do here,
on the games. -And he reads like crazy.
-Yeah, I read a lot. -When we get some new rule book, I say, “Here you go, kiddo.
Memorize it.” And then I read it
while he builds all the models and paints, usually.
-Yeah. So I’d say overall, you always
know the rules better. You usually know the rules
a lot better than I do. They can move four, right? -Who, Kayazy? Yeah.
-Kayazys. Be good. No! It’s a whiff for Beast. -That’s a whiff! -It’s been totally something
we share. There was kind of a synergy
and enthusiasm. -Yeah, we really
both wanted to do it, so both of us together
brought each other in. You betcha.
You need a nine. -I need a nine. I need a nine. Seven. No! Oh, that hurt.
That hurt bad. -Yeah, that did hurt really bad. -The misconceptions
about what we do stems mostly from portrayals
of this community from people in the community. Nobody else knows what we do, and everybody on the outside
thinks we’re all weirdos. “So let’s make a show,
a comic, or whatever about how weird we all are,
and we’ll all laugh together.” But that doesn’t
really help anybody. Name the profession.
They play games, too. Lawyers, doctors,
students, actors, directors. The whole point is
to make more friends and have more opponents
to play against. You know, see who wins. -The challenge
keeps me coming back every week ’cause it’s never the same game. -I know guys that come in,
buy models, slap them together
as fast as they can, and then play game after game
with bare metal or bare plastic. They want the challenge
of the game. I mean, there’s national
tournaments for all these games. -If you’re painting
for a competition, you probably spend
12 to 14 hours or so. Actually, there’s one in Chicago that the winning prize
is $10,000. -I’ve always liked playing
a lot of different games. I also do a game club, but the game club
doesn’t always do miniatures. Sometimes it’s card games.
Sometimes it’s video games. -I’ll play a lot of other stuff.
I play a lot of “Helldorado.” I’ll play a lot of card games. I’m game to try
any board game out there, so… -We’ll have 30 guys come in
on a night and they all know each other
and they’ve all probably gone out and hung out
with each other. I can sit down with somebody,
and if they play Warmachine, we have that bond
that we can talk about the same way that somebody
who’s really into a sports team. Red Sox fans
have plenty to talk about. And they all hate the Yankees,
so I’m told. -My mom, I think
she’s kind of okay with it. We tried
to get her into the hobby, but she never really took to it. -Gamers can get married. [ Laughing ] So I’ll go ahead — I’ll go ahead
and dispel that right now. -I’ve never been the guy that
keeps my minis in the closet and doesn’t tell
my significant others what I’m going and doing. It’s always been on the table,
like, “All right,
well, I come with these dragons, so figure it out.” No matter what else is
happening, we’re still playing. We’re still trying to have fun. We live
in the post-“Warcraft” world, where it’s okay
to go home and slay a dragon, and everyone understands
and thinks, “Oh, cool.” Once you’re hooked
into this kind of thing, I don’t think I’ve ever seen
anybody really actually quit — like, quit and never come back. Guys will take a hiatus, and I
might not see a guy for a while. He’ll have a kid or,
you know, that kind of thing. But they’ll be back.

Tony wyaad

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100 COMMENTS

  1. Kotokizu Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:49 am

    This channel is absolutely amazing never stop being awesome Rainn!

    Reply
  2. Caroline Reed Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Awesome!!! BTW I want to meet the kid wearing the Captain Hammer shirt!

    Reply
  3. giovanniimperiale Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:21 am

    I used to play Magic the Gathering but this kind of get togethers died a few years ago over here and it sucks, mmo's are fun but they're too lonely.. in this kind of places is much more social , friendly and fun and the best part: NO TROLLS makes me feel god this events are still happening, thanks soulpancacke, keep it up! 🙂

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  4. S-Werbenmanjenson Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:39 am

    I love the father and son bonding over playing games.

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  5. Asurael Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:45 am

    Yay Warhammer 40K! I've been playing since I was 15, so it's now been… wow, 11 years, I'm getting old -_-

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  6. StephenK Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:48 am

    Warhammer Fantasy = awesome

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  7. NonFlyinHawaiiN Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:17 am

    Best SubCulture EVER!

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  8. Katie Salmers Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:20 am

    Really makes you want to be this good at something…

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  9. Malvat Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:21 am

    Guy with Captain Hammer shirt. 😀

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  10. Miguel Deer Park Posted on August 29, 2012 at 6:01 am

    i really like this but i feel like i'm going to spend way much money on creating all my characters and things alike. It looks so fun!

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  11. ThisIsMissLys Posted on August 29, 2012 at 6:17 am

    Not about Warhammer 40k….

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  12. Emmy A Horstkamp Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:04 am

    That is a great father son activity.. better than just sitting and playing video games.

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  13. ImWilfredCunt Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:08 am

    Fuck i feel so bad, i used too pay out on people like this. But now i realise that this shits pretty cool. I wasted my childhood lol.

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  14. Eva Konič Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:48 am

    My sister and her boyfriend (who is actually a painter of some sort) do play this game and paint their armies themselves. They even paint other's army for some money and the most cool thing is when I watch my sis do it. It's just so beautiful. A little piece of art 🙂

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  15. Philip Bateson Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:51 am

    weird, but cool!

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  16. Thomas Dugan Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Now do cards games like Magic: The Gathering and Yu-Gi-Oh!

    Reply
  17. Noetyka Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:15 am

    I love watching people who are really passionate about something – it's so fascinating! Thank you soulpancake :).

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  18. Elijah Baldwin Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:19 am

    seconded!

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  19. Thomas McKeown Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Warhammer, awesome, I need to get back into that… and I must say, this is an amazing way of representing it seriously, appropriate;y and awesomely 😀

    Reply
  20. Tara Saye Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:39 am

    One of the guys had a Captain Hammer shirt! 😀

    Reply
  21. Instructions Manuel Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Yeah I saw some Orks

    Reply
  22. OneTypewriterMonkey Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:43 am

    I really, truly love this series – possibly my favourite YouTube show. You display things positively and find people who are passionate, and by doing that you show people who have respect and dignity and passions. It makes me love the people in the video's, SoulPancake, and people in general.

    So thanks, I guess.

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  23. pscman3 Posted on August 29, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    hey do one on e-sports
    i think not many people get how e-spots have developed (like in korea)
    i myself would like to be a pro e-spots player or just be involved in it(i play league of legends)
    but i watch some other games that are competitive
    i put a nice amount of time to read about it, learn about the game that is growing and changing each patch
    -if you did it that would be fun and awesome-
    loved subculture videos

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  24. arekceg Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    such a great community.
    I always wanted to get into Warhammer, but it seems like a very very expensive hobby 😀

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  25. No Body Posted on August 29, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    This is one of the reasons I sunscribe to soulpancake. Art culture I feel enrichef

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  26. StabbyTMP Posted on August 29, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    As an avid war gamer, I know the initial outlay can be daunting, but no more daunting than a PC gaming rig, the sets of cards in CCGs or the outlay for various other hobbies – the hours spent cleaning, assembling and painting minis is incredibly therapeutic, whilst the in-game experiences range from having a laugh at the ridiculous events to the (enjoyable) stress and pressure of large tourneys. It isn't cheap initially, but the hours of enjoyment you can get out of it are more than worth while.

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  27. StabbyTMP Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Also nice work Soulpancake 🙂
    a wide berth from the article in an Greek mag that painted wargamers as satanic sociopaths executing plans for world domination on a table top.
    a search for "greek 40k bad journalism" will give you some idea.
    Once again, nice work.

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  28. Gabriel Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    I don't think i could get into a game like that. But the figures look really cool after they painted them. The detail is crazy.

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  29. sinephase Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    It's the prohibitive expense that would turn me off from a game like this every time. Likewise I could see some balance issues arising from just being able to afford pieces the other person can't.

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  30. Charlene Teets Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    I wanna play this game sooo bad now!!!

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  31. Maria D Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Anyone who enjoyed this video should definitely read Ned Vizzini's new book "The Other Normals" all about a kid whose war craft characters come to life. I'm not doing it justice, but it is really awesome.

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  32. Anthony Rauseo Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:25 am

    Is that Cee Lo Green at 3:24?

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  33. Zeke R Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:00 am

    In my experience, depending on who you are playing against, people are generally happy to let you 'proxy'. This is awesome as it allows you to substitute figues you DO have for models that you have yet to purchase. This lets you try out new army lists and strategies so you can be sure you want the models before you commit to actually purchasing, building and painting them. This being said, in tournaments usually it is a case of 'what you see is what you get'. It sucks that Aus pay twice USA cost

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  34. itirzotir Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:32 am

    gender balance??

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  35. ThePrimaryDirective Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:05 am

    His name's Oscar and everyone loves him because he's awesome.
    You'd like him.

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  36. antiveggiemonster Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    It looks so cool!!!!!

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  37. Caroline Reed Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Cool thanks! He looks really awesome.

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  38. Caroline Reed Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Really? Does he have a channel that I could check out?

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  39. Caroline Reed Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    🙁 jk.
    If he does please message me or something:)

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  40. Mike Ursic Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    They should have come on tournament day. That way you could portray the super competitive nature of the game. That would have rocked. Travis would have had the gamer headband on. There was also no Will or Craig. Those are like some of the core guys there. I suppose they didnt make it in the final footage.

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  41. lynitadalitso5 Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    "I come with these dragons." 😀

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  42. TheDean04 Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Awwww! Makes me damn proud to be a gamer.

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  43. ArchArturo Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Those were some really cool trollbloods.

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  44. Shaydes90 Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Newer tabletop miniatures games are more affordable than what folks remember from 5+ years ago. Most games offer entry-level "starter boxes", ranging in price from $25 to $60, easily what you'd spend on a videogame. Odds are, you'll see greater return-on-investment on that starter box, in terms of recreation-time per $. Take a look at starter boxes for Dystopian Wars (steampunk land-air-sea battles), Malifaux (multi-genre madness), Dark Age (post-apocalyptic sci-fi), and others.

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  45. Adam Azevedo Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    To everyone say's that it's "prohibitively" expensive, really it's not. For the cost of a couple new PS3 games you can easily purchase a fun and fully playable army in Warmachine. It's a hobby, sure, so you have to want to spend that money on toys and similarly you have to want to assemble, prime, and paint them, but the payoff is great and that army will give you potentially hundreds of hours of fun.

    I typically expand my army at the cost of about $50-$70 every couple of weeks, nothing crazy.

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  46. MackJCM Posted on August 31, 2012 at 12:54 am

    This one was my favourite SubCultures. I tried to get into Warhammer once, and it was the first time I felt I was among people like me. It turns out I'm more of a Dungeons and Dragons than war games guy, more focused on a story that's happening and a band of heroes than a huge war, although both are awesome and fun. Despite the fact that I now have diverse and real friends outside of my hobby, I sometimes miss walking into that store and hearing, "Hey, Necron guy!"

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  47. theloverobot Posted on August 31, 2012 at 1:55 am

    This and magic cards… the rules goes right over my head.

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  48. sephiroa Posted on August 31, 2012 at 9:17 am

    so is every hobby, do something you are passionate about, football, tennis, wargaming, you always want more, special stuff etc, people just think this is stupid because they are "only" minitaure models, well, we have social contacts, can play as long as we want, have some beer while we game and be proud of the things we paint and stuff, i spend some money on this hobby, but it sure is fun 🙂

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  49. wolfboy2222222222222 Posted on August 31, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    I love Warmachine & Hordes, more Hordes though. I've been playing since I was 13, so for almost 4 years now. Representing Las Vegas! Blindwater Congregation, Trollbloods, Thornfall Alliance, and the Protectorate of Menoth. >:O

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  50. Willowheart4321 Posted on August 31, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Subculture theme suggestions: rock climbing (bouldering more specifically)
    That is all.

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  51. SirLaserFace Posted on September 1, 2012 at 3:43 am

    I love that each of these are like a little glimpse into what could be a whole other world told by people that love it so much.

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  52. flutisticwonder Posted on September 1, 2012 at 6:40 am

    I wish more girls got into this stuff.

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  53. imightbemexican Posted on September 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    suggestion for future subculture video. Policy debate. yes it might not seem like it but it so is a subculture. just watch some videos and you'll get it. THANKS

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  54. Emera Lee Posted on September 3, 2012 at 3:30 am

    I want someone to teach me this. Also, father and son doing this together…freaking awesome.

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  55. Lydia T. Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    I think sometimes it's more the lack of other girls than the thing itself that's off putting, which makes it even more of a shame.

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  56. Lydia T. Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Sometimes watching these makes me feel like my life is kind of limited. I wish there was more time to try all the weird stuff you wanted to.

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  57. Lydia T. Posted on September 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I think it's often more to do with the lack of other girls that the thing itself, which makes it even more of a shame.

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  58. TheDean04 Posted on September 12, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Heck, for $80 you can have a full 300 point infinity army, and as far as sc-fi games goes they have the best models and a great rule system!!!!!!

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  59. YellAtMoon Posted on September 14, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    1:25 – THAT BEARD!! <3

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  60. krycer123 Posted on September 14, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    WARHAMMER 40K REPRESENT!!! PEWPEW

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  61. forsteri Posted on September 17, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Yay, Game Empire! That place is amazing. By far the best game store that I've ever visited.

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  62. jimbolimboboy Posted on September 19, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Where is the next Sub culture… 2 weeks guys It's the one I look forward to each week…

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  63. Will TTheGhost Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    do a SUBCULTURE on Whovians!

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  64. sephiroa Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:33 am

    try some cheaper tabletops 😉 and you always have some money to do a hobby :p its still a collectiing hobby, so you can buy 1 or 2 miniatures/tanks each month, and paint it before you buy a new one

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  65. Da40kOrks Posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Thank you! Excellent video!

    Miniature wargaming has so much to offer. There is the quiet alone hobby time just painting and assembling. It's my way to relax after work and after the kids are asleep. There is the list building, trying to find the best combo's to win games. Then there is the social aspect. Wargamers are the opposite of the stereotypical stay-at-home awkward nerd. We have to go out and talk to people face-to-face to play. Great way to make friends and have a good time.

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  66. Jason Dunham Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Good video! One of the most accurate portrayals of our hobby. Keep up the good work!

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  67. squintychicken Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    I think that is crazy expensive (I also think video games are crazy expensive). I tried to collect those things when I was in highschool. $50-$60 is way more money than I ever had… Still I think it is cool. I mostly liked painting them. Also I like that these people own their nerdiness. It makes me think they are super cool.

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  68. WARMANX23 Posted on October 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    and creativity, don't forget creativity c:

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  69. TheShadowFog Posted on October 21, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    I'm loving this channel.

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  70. Karson Kammerzell Posted on October 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    One of the expenses is due to people 'min-maxing' and a new rule-set launching that 'ruins' their play leading them to have to rebuild the army from scratch.

    Another expense: many kits have options to a particular model. If built normally it would end up costing triple, or more, to account for all the variations you can use. My brother magnetizes and pins many of his models to allow him to swap variants between games. So with one kit, he gains all versions, saving that money.

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  71. Thomas Posted on December 3, 2012 at 5:19 am

    i want to play the game O,..,O

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  72. BurpAtTheMoonAtNoon Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    3:33 what about her? Also "hot" girls don't get married, they just fuck for money.

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  73. TTurchan Posted on January 16, 2013 at 5:48 am

    Gintaras Valiulis is my history teacher 😀

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  74. John Crawford Posted on January 17, 2013 at 4:38 am

    I did this mostly as a hobby for painting. I just started getting into the game and am really deep into it now! Even got my pass to go to a major event in Seattle in May.

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  75. bethesda423 Posted on January 28, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    *subculture on world building

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  76. bethesda423 Posted on January 28, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Use shared worlds

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  77. yoshikawa98 Posted on January 31, 2013 at 7:41 am

    captain hammer shirt ftw

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  78. Mr_Mamba Posted on March 4, 2013 at 1:39 am

    Warmachine: Best. Game. Ever.

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  79. Kanvass01 Posted on March 7, 2013 at 10:19 am

    those were some nice trollbloods

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  80. NikSG94 Posted on March 8, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    good to know you have that kind of money, guy.

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  81. Alanvalentinus Nala Posted on March 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    I would like to see one of these vids for Table Top Role Playing Games, and for Preppers/ bushcrafters/ wilderness survival enthusiasts.

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  82. Brandon MacLean Posted on March 29, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    edition changes is a non-issue for WM/H. There was a single edition change a couple years ago to clean up the first edition and there are no new editions in sight. Warhammer/40k are notorious for this however…

    Jacks are extremely easy to magnetize; beasts less so, but still doable.

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  83. Brandon MacLean Posted on March 29, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    that's true for infinity's models. The terrain requirement is greater though. so if you have a game shop to play at (like in the video) Infinity and Malifaux are some of the most inexpensive wargames to get into.

    If you don't have the terrain at home small boxes and stacks of books can suffice while you make some.

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  84. Georg Buscha Posted on April 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    I was 8 years old when I started wargaming (original Warhammer Fantasy). At this point I had just reached a very basic level of english (it's my third language). Within a year I had the vocabulary of a native-speaking post-graduate level student, purely because of how enthralled I was by the background and I would read and re-read the books cover to cover.

    I'm glad I'm a wargamer, it's given me so many things in my life. Reading skills, creativity, strategic and tactical thinking I owe to games

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  85. Its Mr.Nello Posted on April 15, 2013 at 3:41 am

    Man, this is actually pretty sweet.

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  86. ZennTempleRiffs Posted on May 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    I'm a recovering alcoholic/addict (alcohol, pain meds, heroin, cocaine, valium) and when I first got clean & sober 3 years ago, reading Warhammer novels, painting minis, & gaming helped keep me sober. I love the hobby, second only to my love of music (I'm a singer & play lead guitar, write all my own songs).
    Thank you for not falling into the trap of preconceived ideas of us gamers. I'm appreciative that you've made a video that shows us as we are; just regular people from all walks of life 🙂

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  87. Anthony Origer Posted on May 10, 2013 at 5:36 am

    3:22 Cee-Lo games too.

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  88. cirilia Posted on May 27, 2013 at 2:37 am

    Damn. I wish I had the patience for this.

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  89. An Ng Posted on May 29, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Make a video game version plz cuz I don't have money for all these and space.

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  90. Anthony Maher Posted on June 18, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Watching this video made me laugh because I'm a miniature war gamer and I come with these dragons and skeleton army so figure it out Lol I'm a geek and I love it!

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  91. Dylan Gillespie Posted on October 13, 2013 at 7:03 am

    You're going to get thousands of hours out of this one game though. And unlike COD, WoW and other games, Warhammer has been around since before them all. It doesn't go through phases, it doesn't go out of style and isn't replaced by another game. You're not paying for a game that will be replaced in a year, 5 years or even 10 years.

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  92. TheEpicChewy Posted on October 28, 2013 at 12:48 am

    yeah i love to play warhammer 40k 😀

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  93. Everett Beck Posted on June 17, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    I really miss all of this I need to find a local gaming store, what a healthy community they have wherever that was

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  94. Glósóli Posted on July 10, 2015 at 11:47 am

    That store looks so good! so much space!

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  95. Kaleena Darrow Posted on March 27, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    This looks so fun

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  96. The Vertigo Channel Posted on September 19, 2018 at 6:01 am

    in what city is this?

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  97. Barbara Dominguez Posted on September 22, 2018 at 5:53 am

    This one looks like the one in Pasadena.

    Game Empire
    1795 E Colorado Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91106
    (626) 304-9333

    https://goo.gl/maps/EnUPA7nYWWR2

    Game Empire Pasadena website:
    http://gameempirepasadena.com/

    🤘✌

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  98. Keocin the wolf mango Posted on February 24, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    The thumbnail of this vid is the harbinger of menoth, fought it once and now im intimidated by it.

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